Comments on: The Death of a Hamster http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/ Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:18:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: sehej randava http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-47 sehej randava Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:55:48 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-47 what kind of person are YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what kind of person are YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: karen http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-46 karen Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:01:24 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-46 she should be hung and killed! I love hamsters and dislike people! she should be hung and killed! I love hamsters and dislike people!

]]> By: NithaSujith http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-45 NithaSujith Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:14:56 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-45 killing an animal for food is reasonable but killing an animal for other useless reasons.... is definitly cruelty which is a sin.... unforgivable sin. we kill mosquito because it bites us.... we are not supposed to kill animals according to our mood swings..... that is definitly cruelty... but yes that 19 year old shouldnt be send to prison for 2 years.... that is a little toooo harsh. killing an animal for food is reasonable but killing an animal for other useless reasons…. is definitly cruelty which is a sin…. unforgivable sin.

we kill mosquito because it bites us….
we are not supposed to kill animals according to our mood swings…..
that is definitly cruelty…

but yes that 19 year old shouldnt be send to prison for 2 years…. that is a little toooo harsh.

]]> By: April http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-44 April Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:36:15 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-44 O MY GOD!!! Poor Thing I mean who would do such a thing omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O MY GOD!!! Poor Thing I mean who would do such a thing omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Mira http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-43 Mira Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:23:20 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-43 killing the mosquito that just bit me and will bite me again in less than 2 seconds if left alone is self defense. killing a cow for its meat is self conservation. both are dictated by the most powerfull instict in nature: the survival instict. killing for fun or out of boredom is a cold blood murder for the sole reason that you kill just because you want to kill. so, in my opinion, what changes the severity of the act is the motive. not that the end justyfies the means, but killing the most certainly harmfull city rat is not the same as killing your supposingly "companion pet". for nature it's the same (many people think that if they are vegeterians, their survival is not based in the suffering of others, but truth is that every relative scientific experiment that was ever been made, proves that plants do feel.) whichever creature you kill.furthermore, it's withinin natures ways that in order to survive one speces will eventually have to hurt another. so what i believe is that, no, it's not he same killing in order to cover your phusical needs and killing for entertainment, anger, vanity (lab rats for cosmetic industries, wearing expensive chinchilla coat). the ideal would be not a single living organism being sucrificed so that others would live, but since the world is not a perfect place, it would be better if at least animal deaths would come to the very minimum. because even when taking the car for two blocks of overwatering the plants of your garden, you cause the death of millions of animals. so before you think of the poor little venomous sting, think a little of the poor little side effect victims, the penguins! killing the mosquito that just bit me and will bite me again in less than 2 seconds if left alone is self defense. killing a cow for its meat is self conservation. both are dictated by the most powerfull instict in nature: the survival instict. killing for fun or out of boredom is a cold blood murder for the sole reason that you kill just because you want to kill. so, in my opinion, what changes the severity of the act is the motive. not that the end justyfies the means, but killing the most certainly harmfull city rat is not the same as killing your supposingly “companion pet”. for nature it’s the same (many people think that if they are vegeterians, their survival is not based in the suffering of others, but truth is that every relative scientific experiment that was ever been made, proves that plants do feel.) whichever creature you kill.furthermore, it’s withinin natures ways that in order to survive one speces will eventually have to hurt another. so what i believe is that, no, it’s not he same killing in order to cover your phusical needs and killing for entertainment, anger, vanity (lab rats for cosmetic industries, wearing expensive chinchilla coat). the ideal would be not a single living organism being sucrificed so that others would live, but since the world is not a perfect place, it would be better if at least animal deaths would come to the very minimum. because even when taking the car for two blocks of overwatering the plants of your garden, you cause the death of millions of animals. so before you think of the poor little venomous sting, think a little of the poor little side effect victims, the penguins!

]]> By: Chad http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-42 Chad Tue, 31 May 2011 00:22:53 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-42 So what do you think about insects? So what do you think about insects?

]]> By: Abby Keiffer http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-41 Abby Keiffer Mon, 30 May 2011 21:14:21 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-41 I do think that all animals should be treated like humans as they are LIVING CREATURES tha thvae feelings and any one who would dare eating A hambuger or fish or boshintang if you had the heart to look into that meal and see that animal wether a cow a dog a pig a chicken it is a living creature HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE THAT ANIMAL BEING SNAPPED IN A TRAP OR BEING GRINED INTO FOOD this is my love and my passion so think before you catch a mouse in a trap or eat that hamburger as it will be a living creature and you'll take that right of having a life from it so remember how would you feel if it were you you would like to keep your live why not them . And that girl should not have been sent to jail she shoudlv'e been thrown out a window and faced the deaath just like that poor hamster had. I do think that all animals should be treated like humans as they are LIVING CREATURES tha thvae feelings and any one who would dare eating A hambuger or fish or boshintang if you had the heart to look into that meal and see that animal wether a cow a dog a pig a chicken it is a living creature HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE THAT ANIMAL BEING SNAPPED IN A TRAP OR BEING GRINED INTO FOOD this is my love and my passion so think before you catch a mouse in a trap or eat that hamburger as it will be a living creature and you’ll take that right of having a life from it so remember how would you feel if it were you you would like to keep your live why not them . And that girl should not have been sent to jail she shoudlv’e been thrown out a window and faced the deaath just like that poor hamster had.

]]> By: Bethany http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-40 Bethany Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:57:52 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-40 But isn't it naive of us to categorically prohibit the killing of hamsters in "cruel and unusual ways" and not say anything about the dozens of other species we kill on a regular basis in far worse ways? I think the question goes even deeper than "are all animals equal" (after all we have no objection to snakes killing mice in "cruel ways" or lions hunting down cute little zebras--its all part of the food chain, right?) but rather, are animals owed "moral rights" in the same convention in which we all recognize the moral rights of humans. And this goes back to the debate over the role of consciousness and self-awareness in beings as a factor of what rights are owed to them. Peter Singer is one of the most well known advocates of animal rights (see this post by Kenanite Chris MacDonald http://food-ethics.com/2010/09/14/singer-protecting-animals/), but many find his arguements hard to come to terms with. Just some things to ponder. But isn’t it naive of us to categorically prohibit the killing of hamsters in “cruel and unusual ways” and not say anything about the dozens of other species we kill on a regular basis in far worse ways? I think the question goes even deeper than “are all animals equal” (after all we have no objection to snakes killing mice in “cruel ways” or lions hunting down cute little zebras–its all part of the food chain, right?) but rather, are animals owed “moral rights” in the same convention in which we all recognize the moral rights of humans. And this goes back to the debate over the role of consciousness and self-awareness in beings as a factor of what rights are owed to them. Peter Singer is one of the most well known advocates of animal rights (see this post by Kenanite Chris MacDonald http://food-ethics.com/2010/09/14/singer-protecting-animals/), but many find his arguements hard to come to terms with. Just some things to ponder.

]]> By: Chad http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-39 Chad Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:27:06 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-39 But if we don't do anything, it would seem like it's okay to go around and kill hamsters in brutal ways. But this obviously goes back to the question why can't someone kill hamsters when people can kill rats all they want and the whole not all animals are equal discussion. I don't think she should go to jail (maybe a fine?) but I do think that something should be done, though that is a very "specieist" thing for me to think... But if we don’t do anything, it would seem like it’s okay to go around and kill hamsters in brutal ways. But this obviously goes back to the question why can’t someone kill hamsters when people can kill rats all they want and the whole not all animals are equal discussion. I don’t think she should go to jail (maybe a fine?) but I do think that something should be done, though that is a very “specieist” thing for me to think…

]]> By: Chad http://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/teamkenan/the-death-of-a-hamster/#comment-38 Chad Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:19:28 +0000 http://devilsdilemma.wordpress.com/?p=496#comment-38 I agree. In China it is much more socially acceptable to eat a dog while in the U.S. such actions are condemned - and the same applies to cows in U.S. and India. It is a really hard question to answer - what makes some animals better than others and when can we do what to which animal? Not even just mosquitoes or rats, what about hunting for entertainment? A dog's life is worth a lot more in the U.S. than in China, and that fact seems rather arbitrary. As for the plants...if we don't eat them, there really isn't really anything left to be consumed, but for me, the fact that plants can't think nor feel is a good enough justification. What do you think? I agree. In China it is much more socially acceptable to eat a dog while in the U.S. such actions are condemned – and the same applies to cows in U.S. and India. It is a really hard question to answer – what makes some animals better than others and when can we do what to which animal? Not even just mosquitoes or rats, what about hunting for entertainment? A dog’s life is worth a lot more in the U.S. than in China, and that fact seems rather arbitrary. As for the plants…if we don’t eat them, there really isn’t really anything left to be consumed, but for me, the fact that plants can’t think nor feel is a good enough justification. What do you think?

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